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When Alyssa Graham and I decided to embark on a two-week camping trip fresh out of high school, little did we know it would be the start of a lifelong friendship. Fast forward, and here we are sharing the memories we've built, full of Lake George misadventures, double dating debacles, and the unwavering bond that only true friendship can withstand. Welcome to an episode as unpredictable and endearing as the friendship it celebrates.
Hey guys, today I'm so excited I have someone here that obviously she needs to come on my podcast. If you know me, you know her. If you know her, you know me. She doesn't even need an introduction. It's my other half, alyssa Graham. Hi guys, introduction. It's my other half, alyssa Graham, my assistant, my lifeline, my best friend. I'm gonna get emotional, oh my god. So I have been waiting to get her on. I mean, our schedules don't really line up. It's funny, because I actually had to put today in her in her calendar, because we share a calendar and I had to put it in. I was like, just because we share a calendar and I had to put it in. I was like, just take off of work, like I need you, we need to do this already. Um, so let's start with how we became friends. Do you want to start? You start? No, I think our stories are going to be different, so you go like I don't remember the minute we became friends.
Speaker 1I do not remember the most important day of your life. I just remember you asked me to go on vacation. I'm like I don't even know this girl, like I know you because we went to school together but we never hung out. So I was just like, uh, and I didn't want to say no, because I I'm awkward and I don't know how to say no to people and I was just like, okay, we know. So, two week vacation with someone I didn't even know.
Speaker 2We like just started being friends and my family goes away camping, let alone. It wasn't like and Alyssa is like I need a hotel, I need this, whatever. So I was like Alyssa, like do you want to go camping with me? Like she wasn't working and like we were just out of high school. So she's like, uh, yeah, sure, so so she came camping with me and my family. And then here we are, like 12 years later, oh my god 11 yeah that's how it started and the best is.
Speaker 2Not only did she come camping with my family, her phone was broken.
Speaker 1She had zero access to her phone, like she couldn't get it at all the night night we left, the night before we left, the night before we left Phone smashed.
Speaker 2Her phone smashed and it was like, like she has that like opening where it was. Like you had to like touch Accessible mode or something With this little square on the iPhone, because at this point, iPhones still have buttons. And her zero button.
Speaker 1My password started with zero, so I was.
Speaker 2Siri-ing.
Speaker 1I was asking Siri to read my texts and I could call through Siri, but I couldn't see anything. For two straight weeks with this girl with no phone.
Speaker 2We had a good vacation. We did.
Speaker 1We have had a lot of fun. We had a lot of good vacations.
Speaker 2What's your favorite vacation we ever went on? I'll say what I think yours is and you'll say what you think mine is. I know what yours is, I don't have to think it. Oh my god, I don't know. Yours is a tie. Right now. I feel Really Yours is definitely Nashville. I was going to say the same for you. That's definitely your top, that was a good times the last time the last time we both that was a shit show.
Speaker 2Um, I would say, yours is nashville. Puerto rico is a really good one too puerto rico was good.
Speaker 1It was just more relaxing than I would say like a trip. Wait while we're on the topic of puerto rico tell me though, for my miami, for your birthday like last year. Yeah, that was, that was a good trip. That was a lot of places wait. So where have we gone?
Speaker 2we've gone to ocean city a couple times. We've gone to miami a couple times. Puerto rico, puerto rico, lake, george nashville a couple times. We just repeat the same places we just went to texas.
Speaker 1I like to go the same places.
Speaker 2Texas was my least favorite yeah, I don't really care for it. I it was. It was an experience. I don't care to go back to be honest yeah, like what is everyone rave about? Texas that part that we went, at least I don't know.
Speaker 1I thought it was like okay maybe we have to just experience a different part no, I'm good, I'm good too, I'd rather go back to nashville.
Speaker 2I'm over nashville. I'm never over nashville. Well now, nashville's a little different for both of us these days, but yeah that's the problem.
Speaker 1That's why Is it. It's the problem, the problem. Wait, can you say?
Speaker 2tell the story about when we went to Puerto Rico and you had to go jet skiing and what happened. First of all.
Lake George Adventures and Misadventures
Speaker 1This must have been my first time jet skiing in an actual ocean, besides like down the shore or something like that. But I I don't even know. I can't describe you. You were lost. I I was circling the ocean looking for this girl and all of a sudden, I had enough.
Speaker 2Like you, it was so choppy.
Speaker 1The waves are smacking us in the face From the beach looked nice and calm.
Speaker 2I'm like these people are having a great time. Oh no, when you're in it, the waves were smacking us. I almost tipped over multiple times. At this point I was like I'm done, we paid for an hour, I think I. No, I didn't tip Almost. I almost tipped like three times because my eyes were shut, because I couldn't see anything and then it opened and I had lashes too.
Speaker 2I had lashes and had contacts and it was burning my eyes so I was like I couldn't even see anything. So I was like I'm done. I went in without even telling her. She thought I fell in, she thought she was gone. She thought I was gone, so she was circling she was circling around looking for me, and then we're like 45 minutes. Yeah, they called her in, and then she just sees me sitting there, she goes.
Speaker 1I've been looking for you, like full panic on a jet ski looking for this girl and she's back at the shore for 45 minutes. I'm just jet skiing by myself like I was like I was just sitting here watching.
Speaker 2I thought you were just having a good time just going in circles you were watching me go in circles, Like I wanted to go in circles around the ocean. What am I supposed to do? I?
Speaker 1was trying to wave you down.
Speaker 2All I saw was turtles and creatures. You think I wanted to see me in the ocean that long. I hate the ocean honestly. I make her hold me.
Speaker 1I love the ocean. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2But it is scary, especially in a different. I'm good. No, that I didn't mind, because I could see my feet. If I could see what's below me, I don't mind, there's so much seaweed in Puerto Rico's ocean. But like yeah, the part where we went, we should have went to that one island over there. Yeah, we got to do that again in Puerto Rico. Well, I have family out there, so we got to go there.
Speaker 1It's another fun trip we not like, so americanized where we were yeah, oh, like george, that was enough, that was a good one. Why was that a good one? Oh, oh yeah. So there's all.
Speaker 2Let's blame courtney for everything that we've been through just so this is like 2020, so covid, um, people were still wearing masks. It just like no, actually it was like 2021. It like just like the world started opening up. So I was like let's go to this cabin. We just want like a relaxing time away. She's like, okay, fine, she's just that you want to go do this. She's like okay, fine, I'm like all right, cool, we actually should have been in Barbados right now, but it's fine. Yeah, that it was mutual. It was mutual.
Speaker 2We wanted to save money, but here we are, but we should enough I know, we should be there. My sister's there right now with all of her friends and we were supposed to go, but it's fine, we're here Anyway. So I was like, let's go to Lake George. And I didn't feel great, but I didn't feel like I had COVID, I just felt like I was getting a cold and it was fine. So like I felt fine, so vacation goes, the vacation goes on. And I was like, oh, let's, do you want to do a brunch? Um crew like a brunch cruise.
Speaker 2That's what it was like yeah, and that's what it was marked as and I was like I've been on this cruise, like I know there's alcohol there. She's like whatever, if I could get a mimosa, I'm for this. So I'm like all right, great. So I was like it just tours, basically like george it's for this. So I'm like all right, great. So I was like it just tours, basically Lake Georgia, it's just an hour. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's very pretty. I'm like we'll just sit and just drink whatever. I'm thinking this is like a booze cruise.
Speaker 1This is where my thought Something for our age group.
Speaker 2This is where my thought process is Also too. It was a Mar. I was like I want to go for a marricade. There's going to be a bunch of motorcycles. I just really want to go there and I just want to see the motorcycles. She's like whatever, I don't care. So we get to this dock and I'm looking around. I'm like I know where this boat is. I used to go. I literally have been going camping in Lake George since I was born and I grew up there know where this boat is.
Speaker 1I'm here and I'm like. All I see is just a bunch of like old people, like senior citizen, straight up coming off of a bus, senior citizens and I'm like like can't walk, yeah.
Speaker 2So I'm like where? I'm like what's happening? And I see people lined up at this boat that we're going to. I am not even exaggerating, she will attest to this. We were the only young people on this boat.
Speaker 1Like me and her, like not one other single person, not mid-40s, not like straight 80s, 90s.
Speaker 2So it turns out this brunch was actually a senior citizen's brunch. For the people that was like the nearest senior living center. It got bust over there and it was for them. It was like a jazz thing. They had name tags. They did have alcohol there, they did. I had mimosas.
Speaker 2The brunch wasn't bad yeah it wasn't bad, it was just lonely. I was just like, ok, so we just went to the roof of it and whatever. So now, fast forward, vacation goes on. I'm starting to get sicker and sicker and I'm like I really don't feel great. We went to a little winery, did wine testing. I'm like I barely taste this thing.
Speaker 2All of a sudden, I worked a wedding a weekend prior and my friend goes I have COVID. I go, holy, holy shit, I definitely have it. I come home, I get tested, I tell her which we slept in the same bed and everything. And she didn't get it. Yeah, so shared things. Yeah, yeah, we shared things, drinks, all that. And I was like, okay, like you didn't even get it. Um, and I didn't. The only thing I thought about was all these senior citizens that we were on a boat with and I was like, oh my god, I had covid and I didn't even know I had it that we were on a boat with. And I was like, oh my god, I had covid and I didn't even know I had it, and we were on a boat with a bunch of senior citizens. It was so fucked up, you're horrible.
Speaker 1Oh my god, god bless they're definitely all okay, yeah, but I didn't know, we weren't really near them.
Speaker 2No, we literally were on the top, they were dancing.
Speaker 1Yeah, they were downstairs To their jazz. Yeah, dancing, we were literally on the top.
Speaker 2Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1We were outside. We were outside.
Speaker 2Enjoying the lake. It was very pretty. I do want to go back. I think I'm going back to Lake Georgia. Actually, you are. Mm-hmm With them, I wouldn't go back. Well, I'm going back with my family. It was beautiful. I like the wineries. It's a calming trip. I would say it's a family place.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, like I'm going with my family and person, but I think we also went in like October, so it was cold a little bit. Yeah, we went in.
Speaker 2October. It gets so cold there by September.
Speaker 1But to be on the lake and do activities on the lake. It's nice, so summer-ish.
Speaker 2Next time I wanna go horseback riding there. You're never going horseback riding again.
Speaker 1I loved it actually.
Speaker 2I know it's so much fun.
Speaker 1We went horseback riding in Texas. She's like a little cowgirl out here I had the worst horse, though your horse was so slow, I was scared a little bit so they gave me a horse that literally just it does nothing.
Speaker 2It did not like picture eeyore from uh, winnie the pooh, just like okay yeah, like I would be like what is it called?
Speaker 2tap in the saddle like move and it would not move, like and all I did money grass and then at one point there was like a huge gap so I just turned my horse to go in front. She's like oh no, let's just not change. She's like my horse is content. She's like talking. Oh no, let's just not change. She's like my horse is content. She's like talking to the horse. She's like it's OK, we just changed the lineup, Everything's going to be fine. And I'm cracking up. I'm like he literally doesn't care. He didn't even want to move.
Speaker 1All he wanted to do was lay down.
Speaker 2Yeah, I felt bad.
Speaker 1you're listening to this you probably know, we fight a lot. We are like an old married couple. Um we fight a lot, but we make up like our biggest fight was like two days bickers.
Speaker 2Yeah, we bicker, bickers, bickering farm, farm, inside joke, inside joke. Um, but yeah, so, yeah, we fight a lot, but at the end of the day, there is literally nothing that Alyssa wouldn't do for me, and vice versa. There is a lot that we both have done for each other. Um, perfect example, when we were in um Texas. Uh, the people that we were with, like her boyfriend, vomit. I can't believe she has one of those I. What are those?
Speaker 1What are those? Just kidding.
Speaker 2Yeah, her, and then our friend Melissa. They wanted to go back and I was meeting up with one of my friends out there. So I was like, no, I'm going to stay. So my phone was straight up dead, which I don't know how I live without my phone. Melissa gave me her phone and she was like here you go, so you have a phone, so you could call me. And I was like well, that is, that is friendship, right there because I would not give up my phone.
Speaker 2But she did, she did yeah, oh you love me, oh, I love you. Um, what other stories do we have, or do you want to get right to our game?
Speaker 1we have a lot of stories. Maybe they'll come up in the game. All right, so I'm gonna play a game it's called truth or drink.
Speaker 2So we're gonna play this. We got our wine. What question should I start with? Let's start light. Let's start light. What's?
Speaker 1I thought the red oh, oh, I thought the red was not light ones okay.
Speaker 2So the blue ones are like wait, let me just get it out, I'm ocd so I need to. So the blue ones are, it says on the rocks. So it's just like I don't know, like embarrassing stories, just like about us. And then I think the purple are like us asking about each other and the red are sex ones. So my parents probably listened to this, but I'm sorry, we're probably gonna listen to them.
Speaker 2Well, sir, blue um just let them skip over this episode what's something you did for free as a favor that in retrospect you really wish you charged for. I can't answer that one for you.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can't answer that myself.
Speaker 2No, this is a good one.
Speaker 1This is a good one, here we go.
Speaker 2Do you ever pity laugh at my jokes, even if you don't think they're funny?
Speaker 1Absolutely I do that to everyone.
Speaker 2She has this thing and I crack up because I called it out where if she's uncomfortable and just meets someone or whatever, she just does this laugh and it's not like an actual, it is a laugh, but she's like ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I can just tell I know her, it's like ha ha. Yeah so she works at a car dealership. She's a manager over there and I will FaceTime her and every time I hear her dog I'm just like, ah, oh, my god, you're so fake.
Speaker 1It's just to make me sound Nice, nice, pleasant, pleasant yeah, I'm scared of you, so if I say something maybe not so nice and I just put huh at the end, it makes it nicer.
Speaker 2Go ahead ask me a question. She's going right for the red. I know it, I know her.
Speaker 1Do you want me to do red or no? I don't care, pick whatever, I'll close my eyes and do it.
Speaker 2Alright, close your eyes, just don't do yellow, yellow, yellow or boring. Yeah, we don't want boring. No, we don't want boring.
Speaker 1That's why we want the red. Yeah, okay, just do red.
Speaker 2I'm sorry.
Speaker 1Mom. I'm sorry, this, know her. Can you read, are you okay? So forgive me now if I can't pronounce some of the words that are on these cards, but this is a good one. I feel like, okay, go ahead. This is going to open up a conversation. Let's go. I'm so scared. So when do we drink?
Speaker 2If we don't want to answer the question, you drink, I'm just going to take a drink right now.
Speaker 1I was just thinking that I want to take a drink before I get into this. I'm so scared. Of course she has to give me the Courtney cup. She's so obsessive. Vice versa, how many people have you hooked up with off dating apps? One are you sure? Yeah, so you know what dating this just opened a great conversation.
Speaker 2I told you this one you know where I'm going. How weird is that I got this question. Do you know where?
Speaker 1I'm going with this one. You know what story I'm about with this. How weird is that I got this question. Do you know where I'm going with this one? You know what story I'm about to say? I'm going to throw up if she says something. So so Did I just put the card there. Yeah, she has a boyfriend. Vomit A thing, it's not actually a boyfriend. Is this a hard launch of a thing that?
Speaker 2I definitely. I call her boyfriend the thing in our lives and she calls mine the thing, because it's like boyfriend just makes you want to vomit Like we're dating. We don't have a boyfriend. That's my girlfriend. I'll openly say it.
Speaker 1Like we're married, yeah, and we can't say that we openly have a boyfriend, we have a problem bringing people in our dynamic.
Speaker 2Like it's very hard for us. They just mess everything up. So, let's, let's tell the story about um, the boyfriend. Do not say the nickname because I will kill you anyway, just out of respect, all right, not for him, for you. So, um, I was newly single and I alissa was like you got to get back out there, like whatever. I was like oh, I hate this. Like whatever, um, me and him make up the story because we both don't want to say we were on a dating app. But I downloaded a date, I downloaded a dating app and obviously, like, when you're on these things, like you're talking to multiple people, so like Alyssa's very much involved in my life and I'll send her pictures of whoever I talk to, like whatever.
Speaker 2So I'm like basically in the relationship so I'm on this dating app and I'm screenshotting like people I'm talking to. I was like, all right, like this one's not that bad, like whatever I was, like this one could hold a conversation and then, like I don't know you just kind of like, I just like don't like dating apps because I just feel like it's very superficial, because you're literally looking at a picture of someone. You're like, all right, they're cute. Like I go off of conversations, like I have like questions. I usually ask people and if you can't hold a conversation within a day, I'm like usually over you. So there was like I want to say like two or three I was like talking to, but like one really stood out to me because it's so my type. I like blonde hair, blue eyes. Clearly, look at her Blonde hair, blue eyes there you go. So I started blue eyes, there you go. Um. So I started talking to him.
Speaker 2But I gave everybody nicknames so that they could remember. And this kid just his nickname was a combo of people. That's all I'm gonna say. That's the nickname we gave him. So so I'm like I can't go on a date. I haven't been on a date in so long. Like I can't go on a date and I'm also meeting someone for the first time. He doesn't even live in this area. He lives like two hours away. I'm like I'm making this kid drive all the way over here, like I'm bringing alissa and her boyfriend, so I was like, great, we're gonna start with a double date. He needs to know the dynamic I can't tell the dynamic of our relationship.
Speaker 2So like let's just start this off with a double date. So Alyssa's like what the fuck is his name again. So I tell her 800 times what his name is. But again, keep in mind.
Speaker 1Again, it's not important to me because we're married.
Speaker 2It's not important, it's irrelevant, so sorry.
Speaker 1It's irrelevant that I had to go on a date in the first place and watch my wife go on a date.
Speaker 2Oh, now you know how I feel about going on vacations with you and the thing. So anyway, I'll give it to her, I guess. So we go on this date and, like I said, I was talking to a couple people and I gave them all nicknames. This one just really stood out and I was like, whatever, I met him before she met up with us and me and him were talking. I was like, damn, I actually really like this guy and I'm like, oh fuck, I really hope Alyssa doesn't fuck it up. That's what I think of, not me, alyssa so we go on this date.
Speaker 1I like purposely wanted to, but I know, but this actually was an accident. This is such an accident, so I introduced him.
Speaker 2Whatever we're all talking like, we order food, whatever food comes out and there's like salt in front of him. She didn't want to reach over, so she says the nickname that we gave accident and I wish I could tell you guys the nickname, but I can't because I just don't, I just don't want to do it.
Speaker 1So she says the nickname by accident and we just look at each other like eyes, bug, bug like a bug eye, whatever, like a deer in the headlights and cover my head, and she was just like and she is just.
Speaker 2This is also I love her. Whatever we say behind each other's backs, we'll say right to each other's face, like she just says what's on her mind she looks at me, she's like oh my god. And then she looks at him and she goes. And he just looks at me, she goes what is your name? Again? And I'm like oh my god, here we go and he just looks at me and goes. Is that a combo of names of guys you used to talk to? And I go?
Speaker 2yeah, because the guys I talked to have blonde hair, blue eyes and I have a type, so we just comboed a bunch of names together and that's what we named you, to stand you out from the other people I was talking to. He's like, well, I appreciate the honesty and I'm like, yeah, I'm so sorry, sorry for my friend. I do have them saved in my phone as that. Of course you do, of course. And now fast forward, I also self-sabotaged that afterwards, so Alyssa didn't ruin it, I self-sabotaged it and now circle back like a year or something later. It's back on, it's back on. I'm fully dating him now. I'm actually disgusted.
Speaker 1Disgusted. I knew that was going to bother him.
Speaker 2He thinks I truth so now we like him he's, so I'm just kidding, I'm just roll with it.
Speaker 1He will always think I don't like it a hundred percent.
Speaker 2He's like I'm never gonna change he said something to uh the other day. He's like when are you gonna like you know, are you gonna ever like announce it or something like am I gonna come on the podcast? I was like, probably, like it'll come up in conversation with a list. I was like can I share the story? Because I always ask people's permission. It's like like, can I share the story? He's like, oh, I think it's hilarious. So here we are, okay, here we are. You want to ask that question, I'll ask another one.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Describe your sex life with a movie title and tell us your reasoning. Just do the movie title Are you going to drink or do you not want to answer it?
Speaker 1I'll answer it. Let me think about this. Describe your sex life with a movie title and tell us your reasoning I need, like options of movie titles, like can I name it for you? Yeah, that's inferior. Oh my god, how did you think of that? Because I know you so well. Okay, I'm so sorry I'm dying, I'm just gonna drink.
Speaker 2I named it for her I'm sorry thing if you're listening to this one. Oh my god, I'm crying.
Speaker 1Okay, go ahead, oh my god, okay, go ahead what about the blue again.
Speaker 2I don't know. Blue is like a normal one.
Speaker 1I'm sweating right now, me too I was just thinking that, like I'm dying, this is about to get real hot all right, I'm sticking to red.
Speaker 2Oh god, mom, dad, I'm sorry, don't listen to this. I don't want to do that one. That's retarded. I'm going to start picking my next one, then I'm going to try a blue one. Wait what are these?
Speaker 1I don't like that one. I'm scared. I'll do this one. Okay, go ahead. Okay, have I ever popped into your head while you were masturbating? Will it happen? Now that we're asking the question, I better have, like the fuck. There's been a time where you fucking called me. I just knew. I knew she wanted to think of me.
Speaker 2There was a time where you called me I'm like this fucking bitch and you answered I love you. I don't think I did. She wanted to think of me.
Speaker 1There was a time where you called me I'm like this fucking bitch. And you answered I love you. I don't think I answered. You did, or?
Speaker 2you didn't. I usually call you like after.
Speaker 1That's fucked up I don't think I answered. You could have continued while I was on the phone. Psycho People are going to be like what the fuck is wrong with? I swear we're not joking either. That is like we're very close. Wait, I wouldn't have interrupted. I don't like these.
Speaker 2These are boring. That was a good one, oh oh. Every friendship involves a give and take. Which one am I? Clearly the give.
Speaker 1I don't give.
Speaker 2This girl Our biggest fight we've ever gotten into. It was very hard for her to apologize and I showed up to her job and I was like, are we done? Are we fucking done? Because she can't apologize. I always apologize. That was a Chris Brown concert. We kind of just like all right, we over it, You're done being a bitch Cool. It's like on to the next thing. Yeah, there was one time. Well that was that there was one time. Well, that was like before you showed up.
Speaker 1I text it during sometimes my apologies are not good enough for her and this is every. This is just our relationship. Yeah well, just not so emotional, or, chris?
Speaker 2brown. Yeah, she's not emotional and she actually turned me into like an emotionless person and uh, thing, my thing thing one and thing two. Thing one, or is it thing, I guess he's thing two, because thing one was in the light hit your life before, okay, so he's thing two. Thing two is like you've like gotten like more emotional and I was like I don't think you understand. Like meaningless are not emotional people? And the more I actually start to like someone, I get emotional. He's like no, like I like this, I could go back, and he's like absolutely not like keep this, I like this, courtney, and I'm like oh, I don't cringe cringe.
Speaker 1Oh, these are boring do the, do the red and just look through them. I'll just take a stack so we could get good ones.
Speaker 2I can't ask some of these. I'm so sorry, Mom.
Speaker 1He should be saying sorry Dad, not sorry Mom.
Speaker 2Your mom lives for this. I have one. Do you have an age limit for a one-night stand? No, you just gotta be over 18. Yeah, I guess Now you gotta be able to go to a be over 18. Yeah, I guess Now you gotta be able to go to a bar and drink.
Speaker 1Yeah at least 21 or up, like obviously, if you're meeting them, I was out. I mean, I don't know, people have fake IDs these days. I would say 21 and up, 22. 22 and up, we're cougars. 22. 22 and up, we're cougars. Oh okay, sometimes you just need that young fun thing for the night.
Speaker 2Okay, some of these I can't even ask. I'm going to switch to like a red. Go ahead, ask me.
Speaker 1This is a good one. Give me one okay.
Speaker 2Have you ever talked about me behind my back? If yes, what did you say?
Speaker 1definitely, definitely have like.
Speaker 2Definitely have like no we have anything I say, would I already have told you.
Speaker 1It's probably really that she's uh sensitive or or dramatic I can picture this already.
Speaker 2She's just so sensitive I just can't deal with it. Like she's just being too much, like she's just too much and like she's rushing me and I just, I just want to get there on my own time. Okay, Like, just let me be. Like did you not even know who was talking, because I sound just like her.
Speaker 1Yeah, for real. But, nothing like bad, like just when she's on my nerves. There's a lot of times where like bickering, whatever.
Speaker 2We're not really arguing, but there's times that we've like argued or whatever, and she's like called me, like, while I was like not even shit-talking her because I'd say it right to her face.
Speaker 1And she's called me like this was recently. You said I just got done shit-talking you.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I was like how convenient Was I with Nikki, or what, yeah, it was. When I was with Nikki, I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 1She just asked about you and I was it. Yeah, like you can't really get offensive at this point, like with a true friend, I feel like, like, why does that bother you? Like, why would you take any offense to that?
Speaker 2but this is well, me and alissa weren't really friends in high school because I don't like the friend group that she was with. I'm not even gonna lie, so sorry, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna throw it right out there, I don't blame you, and I didn't have a good rep, awkward and um yeah. So I wasn't really friends with her until, like that vacation, um one of our mutual friends he, him and um, our friend natalie, just kept bringing us around, like me around, and me and her got really close because I just I liked how she was just outspoken and just says what's on her mind. I am very attracted to that because that's who I am. I'd rather someone shit talk me in my face.
Speaker 1You're going to stop me there.
Speaker 2I just would rather somebody just flat out tell me how they feel versus you get built up resentment and then you explode on each other If you have true friends, they should never feel like they can't tell you as a friend what's bothering them.
Speaker 1If something is bothering you, if you have something on your mind, anything like I, would never want you to feel like to hold back 100, like how is it? Can you sit there and say that's a true friendship? You're gonna go tell someone else how you feel, talk, shit, do this, but you can't tell your own friend to her face.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly I have some good ones right now. They're gonna make you want a drink. Yeah, are you doing just red? Pick some purple too, let's pick some purple. Oh, thank you do you want me to go, even though I just?
Speaker 1go till I find one. I find one. Okay, I'm going to die. The thing is, she wants to keep asking me, because she wants me to drink?
Speaker 2No, this is okay. What problem do you think I'm successfully hiding from everyone, but is actually completely obvious?
Speaker 1I'll be here all day. If I start what you think, I don't know that I have a boyfriend I'm openly admitting it. Now you're admitting it, so I guess, yeah, I guess you're admit. You can't admit that you have yeah, not that you have a boyfriend, that uh I wonder where I get it from. I have the same exact problem.
Speaker 2Like it's not that, it's like it's not that we will treat them like a boyfriend, because we do it's just like I don't I don't want you guys to sit here and think that like, oh my god they're being sneaky or whatever, like they're going on these vacations, like that's not it, um, but it's just I, I just have a problem saying someone's my boyfriend because I it's just it's the like reliant on another person, because I've just been single for a while and like I just, yeah, I liked it that way, like even, like yeah, I just I don't know it's just like putting someone into your routine and then like, say, like again.
Speaker 2It's not even like if somebody reaches out to me and like tries to talk to me and be like, oh, can I take you for a drink, I'm gonna be like, no, sorry, I'm a boyfriend, like it's.
Speaker 1Oh, my god, it's even cringe to say it, it's just weird, boyfriend, I don't know, I don't know, it's so weird it's so weird, like he literally will say.
Speaker 2I was like what are things that make me nauseous? And he'll be like tequila fireball and saying the word boyfriend.
Speaker 1I'm like yes thank you yeah, um go ahead this is like I don't know, that might be a good one some of these are boring, but not boring, but like, just like. I don't even know the answer um, no, oh wait, we asked this one already. I mean, I need the red, these were boring. Purple, oh.
Sharing Stories
Speaker 2God, here we go. All right, tell us about a loophole you exploited until you got caught.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm, Loophole. Like what kind of loophole?
Speaker 2Just anything, something that you got caught, that you were just doing.
Speaker 1I think you should drink bitch. I don't even know, I can't even think, but I don't want to think about it. Drink.
Speaker 2I can name one. Anyway, what Go?
Speaker 1ahead, tell me.
Speaker 2I don't want to say it.
Speaker 1Tell me. I don't want to say it on air. No, do that. Do that't want to say it on air? No, do that. Do that again. Do that again. No, we can go like this. I'm so loud, I can't, we can't, we can't. All right, she's going to press.
Speaker 2We're on a time crunch Go ahead, let's try some blue.
Speaker 1Am? I just just gonna keep asking, I'm looking.
Speaker 2Do you have a go-to sex move? Where did you learn it? Oh my god, I'm just thinking about my parents watching this.
Speaker 1I'm sorry Jilly and Lou and Lou Dad just doesn't watch it. I hope Lou just would like not watch it.
Speaker 2He doesn't watch my stuff to be honest, but I don't know like, oh my God, Cowgirl, obviously Obviously Come on Little freak. If I were in a relationship with someone you hated, would you tell me? Oh, yes, you would. That was easy. Oh, do you think I'm capable of doing something you can never forgive me for?
Speaker 1no, never never, oh, you forgive me for everything yeah, okay, I mean like I, I just can't see you ever doing anything she's like.
Speaker 2Like you know, everyone has like the angel and devil on the shoulders. I'm the angel, it's the devil yeah, like I can't see you, like it's just not in you as a person like I mean, what would you even do too honest like I yeah, like sometimes I get mad sometimes because I give too much detail where she's like you seem like you're lying, because you're saying the entire story like detail and you don't need to and I'm like I just can't.
Speaker 1Sometimes you just don't have to explain yourself.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I always explain myself, like like yes, it would seem like I'm lying because I over explain myself, but I just have to say everything verbatim of what happened, because I just I don't know, I, I'm, just, I'm, that's how I am, because I'm like, I have such a guilty conscience Like I can't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1I'm just like, and it's something over nothing, I know, Like, oh my god, I took your lipstick or something and go. Well, it was just sitting there and it was on the thing and then like okay, I don't care.
Speaker 2Where do I Describe the last time you were out of control? Every time I go out, Tell the story about the party, oh my god.
Speaker 1Anyway. So, as we just started becoming friends, she should have left it was right after we graduated high school. I never went to high school parties. I take her to her first house party, okay. So this is a house party that you know. We frequently went to me and my friends. So I take courtney one time. She's like kind of just broke up with her boyfriend from high school. She's like it was a high school after high school it was after high school, but we were on a breakup we got back together, bullshit, whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah, on a break up.
Speaker 1We got back together Bullshit, whatever, yeah on a break and so I'm bringing her to this house party. All my friends there they love her they're like she's going crazy. But yeah, her boyfriend is at the time blowing up her phone, bothering her, being annoying. So all my friends are like, just shut your phone off. So they shut her phone off. He's going crazy at this point and I'm just laughing because, like as you, should have fun. Anyway, so at this house party they usually had DJ equipment so they would just have like DJ, just put it through the speakers, like DJ speakers or whatever. So they play Eminem. They play Eminem. She gets up on a chair with a microphone and starts rapping Eminem in front of this whole house party. And I'm just sober.
Speaker 2Sober Because I don't really drink that much. I drink until I'm tipsy and then I sober up.
Speaker 1So I turn around and I see her on a chair. I run to her and get her off this chair, Like what are you doing? But everyone wound up loving it anyway.
Speaker 2So if I see any of these people out there like yo. Put Eminem on and like to a point where I was like turning the microphone, people like thinking I was having a concert.
Speaker 1What the heck is wrong with me In front of this house party, but it was fun in front of this house party, but it was fun.
Speaker 2Then I went outside, I turned my phone on and that was a disaster and I was like I had the best time today so I don't even care. Yeah, um, I don't know why you put up with me. Why do you keep me around?
Speaker 1I love you that's why I mean you're my soulmate.
Speaker 2You know like soul friends like this, it's us, even though everybody hates us, because they're like are you guys fighting this week? And I'm like, yeah, we'll be over it. Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1Could have been our fault. In a long time, though, could have been in Barbados.
Speaker 2The best is it's a couples trip and I was like we were the couple yeah. I was like I go like my brother, all couples like at the time I was single, like when they booked it, and I was like alissa, obviously they're like oh, how could we forget? I'm like why.
Speaker 1I just don't understand. Like how do you guys not forget her? Can we tell? Can you say what lou said about you in your new relationship?
Speaker 2oh, I was on facetime with alissa and I and my dad's like alissa, like you, approved of this, like you're okay with this, she goes hello. No, this is disgusting how do you feel?
Speaker 1how do you feel about this? I said it's disgusting.
Friendship and Random Stories
Speaker 2She's just dropping me like no other and it's so funny because we're actually probably gonna hang out this weekend because he's coming over here. Um, we have to make those plans, but just tell her what we're gonna do. Um, I have no life, so your life is me, exactly that's it. Um, but yeah, like the that, one time when we hung out, she just like looked at him and looked at me and she's just like am, I don't like this and I'm like good, now you know how it feels that you have a thing, a thing. You see, I said thing, not boyfriend. Oh, that makes me happy, yeah you're welcome all right, go ahead, ask something.
Speaker 2She's sounding words out right now. Just give her some time. She's like how Can I ask this? Is that disrespectful? Well, it's just not, because my parents Okay, there's some things.
Speaker 1I'll answer and some things I won't. Can I ask this? No, give me a purple.
Speaker 2She's being boring guys. Somebody thinks she's asking I don't want to ask. I'm like, oh my god's asking is that bad? I'll cancel myself after that asking that maybe if this wasn't getting shared to a bunch of people yeah, I can't think of any other funny stories we have so many.
Speaker 1We should have did like people asking us so we could just think of yeah I don't know.
Speaker 2We have so many what?
Speaker 1else. What else have we been through?
Speaker 2you know exactly what story I want to say. What story? No, I already, I already kind of said it in another podcast, but you know, I don't want to talk about it because, like you know, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm, talk about how you left me at a bar In two minutes.
Speaker 1It was like 10 minutes. I never all right.
Speaker 2That was Nashville.
Speaker 1We can't talk about it, but it was our best trip. Go ahead. You can say the story, I don't know.
Speaker 2Do you want to say it? Just know that if you go to nashville uh, I'm going to in like a couple weeks and my my thing is actually fine about it, because he knows my nashville story and he's like it's fine, you already did it, you're not gonna do anything again. I'm like, yeah, no, I won't, I won't, I won't no, I'm just laughing because we both just liked each other, because we're just reminiscing and just should not.
Speaker 2This is how ocd I am right now too. I'm literally um organizing the cards what have I ruined for you? Nothing um my emotions I used to be so emotional and then we got really close and now I'm just not really as emotional. I feel I had to teach you textbook.
Speaker 1Oh my god, uh, no, why not to be so emotional?
Speaker 2yeah, no seriously.
Speaker 1Um, trust me, you can. It's nothing wrong with being emotional, don't? I have my moments like I have emotions sometimes, very rarely. But, um, if you want and one thing I've learned is that if you want what, if you want what you want, or if you want something it's good to be emotionless people will come to you.
Speaker 2Oh, that's true.
Speaker 1When you are emotionless Emotionalist. Emotionalist, you said.
Speaker 2Emotionless, emotionless, emotionless you just emotionless.
Speaker 1Oh my God.
Speaker 2She makes me lose brain cells too. I'm not the brightest. She asked me how to spell farm Farm. She goes F-R-A-M, and I'm like, if it's that hard, I call my nephew who's 10. I go can you spell farm for me? He's like F-A-R-M, and I go you're officially smarter than Alyssa.
Speaker 1I just get in the moments where I can't think on how to spell things. Really, I know how to spell farm.
Speaker 2All the time.
Speaker 1You should see my text.
Speaker 2You know what I love about you, though I see when it says siri, and I said I don't know. She said, oh, like I can't remember what the word was the other day and she actually typed it out. But I said there's no shot in hell. You one knew what that word was and two, you spelt it properly. No fucking way and she goes yeah, she goes. I seared it, but it didn't come up as serious.
Speaker 1I was shocked um what do you love about me that you could on anything I type you could understand?
Speaker 2oh my god some things too like she like gets so tired of like like correcting herself. So like something that won't make sense and I'm like, okay, I got it. It's like da vinci code da vinci alissa out here. Some of these are very interesting ask me them.
Speaker 1Then if you don't want to answer because I can't find one, who's?
Speaker 2the last person beside your partner, who's junk you've seen?
Speaker 1well, obviously I'm not gonna say say the person, but Wait, I can't even remember. It's been so long with the thing, is it? Uh yeah, yeah, no, no, is it Mm-hmm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-hmm? The other one? Oh, you know who I'm talking about. Was that after or before I?
Speaker 2know what it is. You know who I'm talking about. Was that after or before? I know what it is. We saw them in Miami. You got it the nickname. We're going to have to re-talk about that off air. I don't understand. Who did we see in Miami If you had to abstain from sex and masturbation for one full year and you win $27,000 and a nice car. You make it, yeah, because I pretty much fucking did that absolutely yeah, same, I've done that yeah yeah, yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 2Basically, there you go, parents. You would like that. I said I was celibate oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1What thing that I love to do, do you absolutely hate?
Speaker 2nothing because we do everything together. I know, oh my, you want to know what I hate. What am I too picky about? Everything, everything. What do you hate? She always complains, yeah, you hate. We go out to dinner. You know exactly what I'm about to say. We go out to dinner, enjoy a nice meal. Whatever she, it's the ick for me. She just sits there and like, just like, gets so slump in the chair. I don't like a fancy restaurant. She just gets slump, her eyes start shutting, her eyes start shutting and I'm like you, fucking bitch, you're about to fall asleep, and I usually drive. She fucking falls asleep after dinner Every single time. Every single time. You can't. She's going to fall asleep after this wine. I'm not even kidding, she had a couple sips. She's falling asleep.
Speaker 1It's when I mix food and alcohol. I don't know what it does to me, but my eyes just close on their own.
Speaker 2It was my birthday dinner. I was like this remember. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's just gonna be the cover of this. It's just her sitting there with her eyes shut. It's gonna be the cover of this episode, um what's the most serious crime you ever committed?
Speaker 2you know I've never. I really I'm such a goody two-shoes. I've never even like you know, like when you're younger, like everyone always like thinks it's cool to like steal something from c shoes. I've never even, like you know, like when you're younger, like everyone always like thinks it's cool to like steal something from CBS. I've never even done that nothing. I never stole from CBS. I've never even stolen anything like I, nothing hmm, hmm.
Speaker 1I did have an experience one time. Oh, with the, that car, the keying no well you weren't involved in that. Yeah, oh, I know it was nordstrom actually, like when I was in high school oh really yeah go ahead.
Speaker 2I'm not gonna answer that one. There's someone just can't even ask you. Why I want you to no, for your own safety. Just because you cover your mouth doesn't mean people can hear you. It's okay. She literally covered her mouth and went closer to the microphone. She goes um. Do you need emotional connection to have great sex? If you had a spectacular hookup that was purely physical, tell us everything.
Speaker 1Tell us, I think, that when you do have an emotional connection, that which is rare for her.
Speaker 2If she has an emotional connection, then yeah.
Speaker 1That it's always better, but I don't think Sometimes you can have maybe a drunk night or something.
Speaker 2That is good. That's part two of the question. If you had a spectacular hookup that was purely physical, tell us everything.
Speaker 1I have to think hard about this. I didn't really hook up. I mean, I feel like I could say about both of us too that not like I haven't hooked up with many randoms. I've recycled a lot Same people over and over, a lot Same people over and over, but I can't remember honestly. Or I would tell you guys.
Speaker 2I'm not gonna ask this one, I already know you're. Yeah, I'm not gonna ask that. See some of these. Just what Me? Yeah, obviously Do you want me to ask yeah, you can. Who do you think has more sexual partners? You or me? Yeah, obviously do you want me to ask, yeah, you can. Who do you think has more sexual partners, you or me? It's you, me. I'm fucking because you had boyfriends a lot she calls me a prude bitch.
Speaker 1I mean, when I met okay, met you, like you were already you only had, you were, yeah, you had a boyfriend and you had another boyfriend and that was all you had your whole life, my whole life, my entire life, like not that I split your business too much, but I swear I sometimes I think I it was like, I think it was the thing Like no one believed me, that it was just like that many. When I first met you, like you just had two boyfriends, oh, the things that yeah, the.
Speaker 2Thing.
Speaker 1I didn't Like three people. Yeah, I swear to God, it's like three people.
Speaker 2Yeah, like she's ever been with, we had the conversation, I think we were like in AC or whatever and we just were on the topic of like numbers or whatever and I was like three, four, it was four, my like crazy experience was the cowboy yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, that's a good story.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, she drove me to the city, to go.
Speaker 1This is freshly.
Speaker 2This is what this is freshly, like broken up from, like high school x, not high school x, like call. If I went to college, it would have been like college x. Um, I, he's not gonna watch this. I met a cowboy that was in the pbr and of course it was a cowboy. Of course it was a cowboy. This is my cowboy fantasy I've finally lived out. And, um, yeah, I met up with him in the city. She drove me one time because there's two other times and I was like, if I'm ever gonna have a one-night stand, she just looked at me like what you remember the first time I gave you, the first time, I thought, yeah, hopefully was it yeah, he's never gonna listen to it.
Speaker 2So, uh, cowboy turned out to actually be on a tv show. That's as much as I'm going to give. And that second time she drove me he was in the middle of the TV show and yeah, we just like catch up and whatever. And Alyssa dropped me off. She's like I can't believe I'm dropping you off right now and you're cheating on me. And that was my like, if I was to ever have a one-night stand, that was it. And yeah, and Nashville, yeah, that didn't even turn into one. Yeah, so I never had a one-night stand. Yeah, and her thing, the thing, he didn't believe us. And he's like come on, you never had one. He thought my numbers were like way higher than what they were. And I was like no, like like this is really it. And he goes are you kidding? And I'm like no, I swear. He's like I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole, I really thought it was gonna be a lot, not so. Mom, dad, if you're watching this episode, I'm an angel.
Speaker 1I wouldn't say that much I am, I am uh, I don't know okay, I'm out of. Do. I tend to be easy on people or too harsh uh, it depends on the person.
Speaker 2Me, sometimes, you can be hard. You know, though, like when I'm in a mood. Um. So if I'm in a mood like shoot, like she just is like very nice and like doesn't try to piss me off more, but I don't know, she just says how it is. So if people are gonna take, it how they take it exactly.
Importance of Positive Friend Circles
Speaker 1I'm not trying to get out of this episode.
Speaker 2It's truly just like with our friendship alone. Like, yes, we could fight, and like, when we fight, like we're like a vicious couple. We're not vicious, but we just like we say what's on our mind. It's just like pent-up shit, but like, just like your friendships, like, and we both have really cut down on our friendships of like people that we surround ourselves with because you are truly like, you truly become who you're friends with. Like I used to be a very emotional person. I became a little bit I mean, it was also just life experiences I became a lot less. But if you're gonna take anything from this episode, just like who you surround yourself with, like you really have to have people that like one don't compete with you. There's never anything. Both of us have ever wanted to compete with each other like even like you were with me, you're friends with me before I even had any sort of platform and when I like got it, she's if I ever had to be humbled, she's like cut the shit, like stop or like whatever, which I never really I don't.
Speaker 1I don't feel like I've ever changed?
Speaker 2no, I don't either. If anything, it's just more annoying to go out with me now, yeah, and I hate the phone.
Speaker 1I'm not a big phone person.
Speaker 2I know the phone bothers me.
Speaker 1But I get it because that's what she has to do, but it doesn't bother me. But sometimes I just wanted to put her phone down and listen to me.
Speaker 2Which I've gotten a lot better with. Yeah, I think so. She's shocked that I have my phone in another room right now.
Speaker 1I hate going out with her, though, because it's like, oh my God, you're on Instagram.
Speaker 2My go-to thing, which Alyssa's always with me, is if I forget someone's name or if I never actually met them and I want to know what their name is, I'll be like, oh, this is Alyssa. And then they'll introduce their name and like your hand or whatever, and then I remember their name. Yeah, but yeah. Um, but if you guys are going to take anything from this episode, like truly hone in on who you surround yourself with, because you need to have like a good circle of people that support you and motivate you and are there for you through the ups and downs of life, and like we'll never judge you, like I could literally go to alissa right now and be like, oh, I like the craziest thing, I did this, and she'd be like OK, or like if I was really upset about something, like I could go to her and she's not going to judge me, and like that just she.
Speaker 2Like not just her, just in general. Like the people I surround myself with, like I really honed in on my circle of like anything I do, like they're always there for me and they don't judge, which is very important, and you allow your friends to grow into who they're meant to be and you just stand back and watch and, like you, let them vent to you. Like you don't tell them what they do, like what they need to do, you don't tell them how to live their life, you just let them be. Yeah, and that's just really important and I feel like that's what me and alissa have, and I mean I our friendship, and I can't wait to see us grow old and be in nursing homes together and look back on this episode and be like remember that time.
Speaker 2I love you. Say something nice about me.
Speaker 1So if you want to ask me one other thing that annoys me about her, Come on. Why don't you say something nice? Go ahead, this is me being nice.
Speaker 2What is it what annoys you?
Speaker 1that you can never see how great you are and you always need validation. And you don't need validation and this is what we fight about this all the time, like why do you need the validation, which I guess some people do? But you got better, you did get better I had a breakdown. I will give it to her when she needs it, but she doesn't, because she should see for herself how great she is. I'm getting emotional.
Speaker 2Don't make me cry, you're gonna be crying my own podcast and quickly, yeah, I know, I told her I was gonna start a podcast and then two weeks later I was like I have a podcast and she's like what the fuck? She's like when am I coming on? I'm like when the timing is right.
Speaker 1I was supposed to be the first episode.
Speaker 2She was but her schedule sucks, but now we have a nice studio to record in. That's true. So I waited for the right time to have a studio. She's making excuses. Your schedule sucks.
Speaker 1Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2Being her assistant is draining me Her boss hates me because she answers my emails when she should be working. And every time I go visit her boss, can I have my employee? I'm like no, she's my employee. She likes working for me better.
Speaker 1Her day's off. She always gets phone calls and I'm like, are you kidding me? She's spending employee. Yeah, she likes working for me better.
Speaker 2That is very true. And then her day's off. She always gets phone calls and I'm like, are you kidding me? And I answer the phone. I'm like she's spending time with me, like leave me alone, but yeah, I love you. I love you, you're being the bestest friend ever. And I mean, if I answer another sex question, my parents are going to murder me. You want me to ask one? Then Ask just like do you have any off the top of your head? You want to ask me?
Speaker 1Ooh, like I don't know.
Speaker 2Anything Like um. Let's ask you how do you feel about my relationship? Minus the ick of a ick, it's just ick.
Navigating Clinginess in Relationships
Speaker 1I don't have any other emotion towards it. It's cringe, it's just ick. I don't have any other emotion towards it. It's cringe, it's ick. I hate it. My friend is getting. You know what I notice. When you get in a relationship, you get clingy To you, not to me. I want you to be clingy to me. You get clingy.
Speaker 2I don't even see him really I see him like every other weekend.
Speaker 1I can't say but I'm just thinking about your past relationships, oh yeah, I just want to hang out with them.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're a ghost, you're a ghost.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm sure in a few months we're Bye, bye. I'm not even going to see you, no, you will.
Speaker 2How would you not see me?
Speaker 1Well, the here, so neither does the last one I could condone.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, so you had a lot of me. Oh yeah, that's true, it was just from the. You're welcome. I'm doing long distance and whatever. It's not even long distance, it's like a two-hour drive, whatever. I'm doing that for you and you live with yours. So every time I go hang out with her he's just there on the couch and we just walk in and we're like ew, get off the couch.
Speaker 1We all just look like well, I meant just me and you. Yeah, it's like can you get the fuck out?
Speaker 2we've tried everything to try to get him out. Yeah, he just won't leave. I hope you guys don't take us too seriously, because we're really not that serious maybe, I don't know, I might be.
Speaker 1No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2Anyway, that's it for now, cheers love you.
Speaker 1We're gonna finish this.
Speaker 2Love you. Bye guys. I could talk for hours.